Singapore Mitsubishi Evolution Club

ups for this sweet turbo!

Thanks bro & oso for your support.

Would be good if you can post his setup as well.

I noticed the dyno chart reads 407 wheel horse power. Would you mind enlightening why the huge transmission loss, i.e. 492hp - 407whp?

Is a legal basic set up with CBRD BBK 20G turbo, head ported done, cams n stock exhaust manifold,
perhaps u can call me directly if u have any doubts or wanna know more.

Bro, juz feel free to call me if u have any queries, i will definitely answer u to my best.

The reason for asking questions is so that members reading this post could have a better understanding of how such power and performance is achieved. How's the quality of ride. How's the respond. What was the desired use for this set up, e.g. drag, track, street? Any special thing done to the car and things like that. Details of cars are widely shared in US forums, however seldom here. We also don't have many workshops willing to share openly in the forum as well. This will definitely create a much nicer read that what has been shared.

We all know the secret formula to achieving big horse power.... Money.

Thanks for the offer of a call. I'll keep that invitation in mind.

Cheers.

I share JJ's point of view.

The purpose of the forum is mainly for sharing purpose and we are getting very restrictive information here. I think many of us here encountered stumbling blocks when doing searches that always seem to end abruptly. Having workshops to post in the forum remains very much of a taboo here.

Reason why I am requesting for the car's setup is because it may be quite misleading to readers that a stock car is able to achieve such gains simply by porting and changing a turbo.

Do note that it is not my intention to use this as a bashing thread but rather, I am still hopeful that the local forums will become more open with information in time to come.

Cheers

B

I was initially surprised to see max torque @ 5684rpm (how could max torque come so late (ie v 'un'responsive) for a turbo of this size; then i referred to the chart and realised it wasnt so bad (at ard 4450rpm*, former figure caused by 'spike'?)... Still quite late though (ie nt v responsive/streetable) for such turbo size (mated to a legal motor or nt), imho

(* Also, the plateau thereafter looks quite undulating, w power dipping (not insignificantly) within the 4.5-5.7k range, whch correspds w the (change in) linearity of HP climb; perhaps anthr clean dyno run wld offer bettr correspdg lines?)

Yep, as some bros mentioned previously, more info n tech clarifications wld be helpful cheers

Hi JudgeJules, Lmodel & Darkevo,

Thanks for your keen interest in this thread. Well, unlike in the U.S where the information are conveniently shared amongst their large enthusiasts community, over here in Singapore as the number of evo owners are limited & the local authorities are reading the exact same thread as you & I, as a businessman am not able to reveal the full specs of my clients details without their prior permission. They have agreed to share the latest developments & power figures garnered from the bbk turbo as they are satisfied & amazed by the results from a bolt on same frame aftermarket turbo. Moreover is already well know & proven in the US, can refer to evolutionm.net.

What I can reveal though is the fact that the previous & current dyno chart results that I have posted are derived from 100% stock evo 9 engines w/o any stroking up or forged internals. The supporting mods are of course with afttermarket cams, LTA approved manifold set ups, basic fuelling mods like bigger plug in fuel pump (non external surge tank), larger injectors etc with the standard exhaust mods & cat delete. No race fuel at all & results are purely based on locally available 98 pump gas that you & I (& the altis, camry, etc) use on our daily rides. It really is not as complicated as you guys are thinking & making it out to be. No secrets or conspiracy theories. Gone are the days where mid sized GT30 turbos ruled the streets, its now all about balance to almost all of my customers where they have the power, peace of mind & a reliable daily driving evo. That's what the BBK turbo is all about. Great early spool, fat mid range & decent high end but if you are looking for a drag turbo where you want to sacrifice spool & low end but have good mid to high then this is not for you. Why is it so difficult to believe that there is a nicely designed & researched with proven results bolt on turbo that can touch the sacred 500ps mark with basic mods, a good ecu & a reliable tuner?

As for the questions regarding the dyno curve, transmission loss difference etc, as I am not a qualified tuner by trade, I am unable to accurately reply to your queries for now but I will await for my tuner affiliate to be back in Singapore before responding to you guys, how about that? Please understand & be slightly patient with me in the meantime. But questions pertaining to the BBK turbo I can answer you without any delay as I am familiar & qualified to explain & recommend the BBK turbo if it suits you.

Once again thank you for your time & interests in the constantly evolving results of the BBK turbo & if you were to own one unit yourself , you will finally believe that there is a bolt on turbo that really is that balanced...

p.s: the car mentioned in this thread I believe is a friend of both of you & you guys should have seen his car in action recently even looking at his engine bay & all. *Hint hint* you guys can approach him yourself to verify.

Hi hi I think your reply above was really meant to address JudgeJules' and Lmodel's posts and queries*.

I, for one, would like my Evo to be an entertaining car to drive, with a setup that is responsive (i.e. w a good streetable torque-band) and handles well; these being some fundamental precepts that seem to resonate with yours as well, rite?

Like u, I do believe there are "well-balanced" turbos in that class that will offer a very streetable experience (My small snail spools at 2.9+k, max torque 3.3+k...etc.)

* My question remains: Why wasn't higher/peak torque achieved earlier for this size/configuration of turbo (mated to stock motor or not), and kindly explicate that 'dip' after 4.5k (pls refer to my earlier post)

Cheers bro/sis, hope to drop by your showrm soon (is your garage also located at the hotel??)

bro.. if ur going let me know.. my office juz around the corner.. hehe.. i wanna kpo

Bro , if u want to go down let me know , i can bring u there

lol bro u giving ops order huh haha.
if u all going tell mi also hehe

haha....bro neo , i guess i wont leave u out la...haha... *psst* when u free come out la kopi tog , poision u , Muhahaha

haha will do just sold my old ride top up 10k plus broke liao must wait a while then can mod my ride hehe.

Welcome guys, juz pop by with no obligation...

wait wait guys...Concorde Shopping Centre is in Concorde HOTEL, rite? Is there a garage in that hotel (or isit jus the shwrm)? Was at a neighbouring Shell station, didnt notice leh.. (paiseh, i very sua-ku)

Ahh...ops order....brings back fond memories of how my long-four smelled like after a week-long outing in the jungle..nice

haha u miss the smell? next time i outfield back ic go meet u hehe

Darkevo,

If u plan a trip down, drop me a sms k, wanna go kaypoh as well... been awhile since we kopi-ed. I wont be parking at the hotel but at the Tan Boon Liat industrial building just beside it. Carpark rates are cheaper with a large open air carpark & no steep slopes. :p

fyi, evolve motorsports is not a garage but a aftermarket parts shop..

Wow, so many bros r curious abt this new hi-end shop as i am! Ok, think i'll go topo ard the hotel this Sat at abt 11am. U guys ok? (although i would really love to be enlightened by both tuner n workshp (hope they'll be there:)... for we all knw that charts and graphs, when misinterpreted (by indivduals like myself, hehe), will offer nothg more than mental masturbatn, at most

(yo Chris, Alan n Bernard, hope to c yous then, i foresee a win-win partnership between marketer (of the hardware) and owner of the ride cherz!

Thanks for sharing these information and I would like to reiterate that my purpose is to create an awareness for vendors/ manufacturers/ distributors to be upfront with more informations and for readers to read between the lines.

With the readings that I have done, I seriously have no doubt on the capabilities of the turbo.

Ray, I'll be working in the morning but will try to make it there. Shall give you a call on Sat!

Cheers!